tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post2103819783247992624..comments2024-02-25T12:26:48.318-08:00Comments on Metazoica: Metazoica Under New ManagementDee TimmyHutchFanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15186094514615567835noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-76858186585957408222009-03-02T14:04:00.001-08:002009-03-02T14:04:00.001-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Metalraptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17053007518293924808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-90340177744848160092009-03-02T14:04:00.000-08:002009-03-02T14:04:00.000-08:00I'm just trying to say that predatory animals with...I'm just trying to say that predatory animals with organs that can be damaged and thus threaten their livelyhood still seem to be rather successful. And Macharodontinae lasted for over 20 million years. Compare that to our own group, which has yet to be around seven. Plus, if humans hadn't come about, Machairodontinae cats would have lasted even longer.<BR/><BR/>I'm glad you see what I mean by the predatory bats though, and how they are possible to evolve.Metalraptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17053007518293924808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-86355177948554043852009-03-02T13:52:00.000-08:002009-03-02T13:52:00.000-08:00... and at theromorph reptiles like Inostrancevia ...... and at theromorph reptiles like Inostrancevia and Ivantosaurus in Permian... But in every case the group owning saber-like teeth existed not for long. And next sabertooth wasn't its descendant.<BR/><BR/>As for bats, I think about this:<BR/>"Though, they do have techniques to hunt the animals of the area while avoiding the horns and such."<BR/>You may just describe the method of their hunting in description of your species.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-89788495804183565312009-03-02T13:25:00.000-08:002009-03-02T13:25:00.000-08:00Think of sabertooths, they had fragile canines tha...Think of sabertooths, they had fragile canines that were necessary for their very livelyhood, and yet they survived for over twenty million years. The sabertooth body plan was so successful it evolved at least five separate times amonst the mammals, in the borhyaenids, the nimravids, dinofelids (which are closer related to small cats than macharodontines, and thus developed saber teeth independantyl), macharodontines, and creodonts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-61895889213017932712009-03-02T13:21:00.000-08:002009-03-02T13:21:00.000-08:00This is Metalraptor...There are still leopards out...This is Metalraptor...<BR/><BR/>There are still leopards out there, its just that bats take a lot of the predatory niches in Africa. Also, the majority of these bats prey is "super antelope" and such, which is killed by them lashing out with their talons (these bats have derived more efficient wings than their ancestors, who are crippled by their cruropatagium, which is what allowed them to get big and nasty in the first place.) They also do a lot of pursuit hunting, chasing prey until it is exhausted in the air. Then they close in. Some are eagle analogues, but others are big, nasty predators. However, in one respect you are right, they don't try and pick fights with the big, nasty megafauna of the area, but instead hunt the myriad of grazers on the plains (though they will try and bring down juveniles). Though, they do have techniques to hunt the animals of the area while avoiding the horns and such.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-53559717049771492022009-03-02T13:11:00.000-08:002009-03-02T13:11:00.000-08:00Oh, sorry. But in any case bats have easily vunera...Oh, sorry. But in any case bats have easily vunerable wings, and I seriously doubt in their ability to bacome predators hunting dangerous actively defending prey. They may be an ecological analogue of "eagles", but not "leopards".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-49588451360042918492009-03-02T12:30:00.000-08:002009-03-02T12:30:00.000-08:00This is Metalraptor...I think you misunderstand me...This is Metalraptor...<BR/><BR/>I think you misunderstand me, I never said that the bats were flightless. They are flighted animals, swooping down on their prey. They don't prefer to hunt on the ground, but are competent on the ground if they have to be. Think of them as the bat equivalent of azdarchids, (terrestriality wise) but better at flying. The fact that they are lightweight fliers precludes them from other niches, sucb as cursorial sprinters, and so other animals take niches that bats cannot compete in. Perhaps there was an "age of civets" before the predatory bats took over (keep in mind that my future world is 50 MYF, 50 million years ago, true carnivorans were little more than arboreal weasel-like predators). There is a fully terrestrial flightless bat elsewhere, but that is a different story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-81817273490753812112009-03-02T11:48:00.000-08:002009-03-02T11:48:00.000-08:00Thank you for compliment, but I'm an exterminator ...Thank you for compliment, but I'm an exterminator of D. Dixon's ideas faster...<BR/><BR/>So, bats... They can't even normally walk now, and you want to see them as predators hunting alongside with hyenas and cats? I don't agree. At first steps of their evolution they must compete with "true" predators able to run and to walk. And ground predators will not wait while bats will learn the four-legged walking. They will occupy free ecological niches faster. And the transition of bats to terrestrial habit of life seems possible only at the islands without competition with other groups of ground animals. And even in this case they'll be only less flying, but not completely flightless.<BR/><BR/>So, and with what Neocene animals don't you agree, and, the main question, why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-50923000009229976942009-03-02T10:53:00.000-08:002009-03-02T10:53:00.000-08:00This is Metalraptor...Paul,Hello, my name is Metal...This is Metalraptor...<BR/><BR/>Paul,<BR/><BR/>Hello, my name is Metalraptor (in case you hadn't already guessed). It is a great honor to meet you. You are one of the speculative biology greats, alongside Nemo Ramjet, Dougal Dixon, Wayne Douglas Barlowe, and the creators of Spec. I really like your Neocene (even though I don't agree with all of your creatures), and I hope that sometime we can talk or chat. My e-mail is posted if you want to respond.<BR/><BR/>And yes, I too have cats in Beasties. The feline felids (cheetahs and "small cats") have done well, although the cheetah has been lost, but only three pantherines have descendants; the jaguar, clouded leopard, and leopard. Other than them, I have future bobcats, jaguarundis, domestic cat descendants (no cougars or servals yet), as well as some marsupial cat-wannabes, such as the Thumbsnappers.<BR/><BR/>I never really thought about civets. Honestly, it is probably because I have giant descendants of slit-faced bats dominating a lot of the predatory niches in Africa, alongside cats and hyenas (though civets will definitely be there!)<BR/><BR/>See you soon,<BR/><BR/>MetalraptorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-56701414482148584842009-03-02T06:07:00.000-08:002009-03-02T06:07:00.000-08:00So, Metalraptor, I hope this blog will stay intere...So, Metalraptor, I hope this blog will stay interesting under your rule.<BR/>To pour oil on the flames I may say in my Neocene cats will exist. Some species will descend from wild species of today, other will be hybridogenous. Viverrids will shift the positions of cats expanding to the North (Far East, Central Asia, Western Europe), but they will co-exist cats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-46096557054113691642009-03-01T15:06:00.000-08:002009-03-01T15:06:00.000-08:00Anyone who, after reading that, still thinks you a...Anyone who, after reading that, still thinks you and I are the same person is nothing more than a common FOOL! So is anyone who believes them. And they aren't even worth addressing; here or anywhere else. As I have proven more than once that I am not a feline-loving person.<BR/><BR/>But this is your place to ramble about science now for a while. I just want you to have fun, and keep it interesting for all.<BR/><BR/>I also want to say to Canis and Venatosaurus that I hope they do good on their projects and I'd love to see the progress on them when I get back.Dee TimmyHutchFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15186094514615567835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-92079108731639680862009-03-01T11:16:00.000-08:002009-03-01T11:16:00.000-08:00That's why I'm doing cats, because this is probabl...That's why I'm doing cats, because this is probably the only time anyone will ever talk about them on this blog.<BR/><BR/>The post won't appear until next Friday though, I'm notoriously lazy.Metalraptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17053007518293924808noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-938713220377547711.post-37141091142833218962009-03-01T11:14:00.000-08:002009-03-01T11:14:00.000-08:00Future of cats??? Ugh!! LOL!Well, you have fun any...Future of cats??? Ugh!! LOL!<BR/><BR/>Well, you have fun anyway! :) I was going to try and do a family of this week today, but I don't know. I'm sort of expecting my pa to show up.Dee TimmyHutchFanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15186094514615567835noreply@blogger.com