Welcome to my Metazoic site! This site discusses the existence of the creatures to come along after humans will be extinct. I first became interested in a world after man when I acquired my first copy of Dougal Dixon's After Man: A Zoology of the Future in 1992. However, I unwittingly created creatures that did not exist from the time I was about 8 years old. But it was after I obtained a copy of that book (now a collector's item) that I decided to take these same creatures I created as a child and make them more realistic in an evolutionary sense. Though it may be hard for a lot of us to grasp, humans will soon become extinct. One of the biggest factors of how this will happen is the current overpopulation rate. Which is why I don't contribute to the population. I created this world with little more than mammals fulfilling all ecological niches with the help of some friends. I even gave the era of the age after man a name, I called it the Metazoic, derived from the words for "After-era" (Meta, meaning after, and zoic meaning era). We are now in the Cenozoic era. To view all the animals I have created since I began this project, you can go to the "Meet the Mammals" section of this site. To discuss your own ideas about what you think will happen in the future world, and share your ideas with others, please feel free to leave a comment.
One more thing, some of you may find this site quite offensive, and you have a right to your own opinion. But please respect my right to have an opinion too. I'm not saying there is no GOD, I believe it was HIM who got the ball rolling. But I believe after that, evolution took over. There is so much more evidence of evolution than there is of creation. Even that going on right under our noses. Other than that, enjoy yourself and visit our many links.
how come you have made no predictions of what birds or fish will look like in the future? why not reptiles,why only mammals. I mean surely you dont think mammals will be the only creatures left after man!
A little bit at a time. I did do a page for flightless birds of the Metazoic. But fish and other birds, I'll work on those sometime down the road. But I'm thinking of a World where mammals dominate. To find my reptiles/amphibians page, search for "herps". I'm used to calling the mixed group "herps". Sorry.
Ok then. Just 1 more thing though,I noticed in some of your illustrations of your creatures,and I ntoiced that some of them arent the creatures you originally thought of. Like the Phobogula! From looking at your drawing of the Phobogula,it just looks like a Snow Stalker from The Future is Wild. And those rabbit/deer looking things are just those same animals from the book After Man. And the apes that are carniverous and have an almost lion-like body afre also from After Man. I appreciate that you want to create your own futureistic ecosystem,but if your going to do so please dont steal the animals from other people like Dougal Dixon and make it your own.
That's what my partner has been trying to get me to fix all year. Been thinking about it myself and have made some changes. As for Phobogula, that was just a coincidence at first. I created P. arctoides back in 1994, LONG before TFIW. I just happened to add the "snow-stalker" later.
PS: Sorry, I had to look this up. There is a post titled "Rip Off" from February that describes some of the changes I made on a few of the animals (as of that time).
The Metazoic was originally supposed to be an expanded version of After Man, so that's why there are so many of Dixon's creatures hanging around. But lately, Metazoica's been doing some changes to make the creatures original and not ripoffs of After Man and such (the new pictures just aren't up yet). For example, there are still rabbit-derived herbivores, but rather than "rabbucks" they now look more like a creature with an antelope/rabbit body and a boar/rabbit head. Or what used to be the Horrane, which now looks like what could only be described as a "quadrupedal neovenatorid" in layman's terms.
As soon as I have a spare moment I will be able to make those changes. Unless someone wants to offer to do it for me. ;) *hint here* If I have to do it, it may be months, because I just found out my favorite rock group will be touring again soon, and as their #1 groupie (joke) I must be there to cheer them on. hehe!
I read your interview with Dougal Dixon! I am so excited he is making FIW SERIES 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I luved the first one,own the book and the dvd box set,and now hes making a new book (and hopefully movie) that continues how the future is just...just...WILD! how do you feel about it Timgal?
I'm sitting with anxiety in hope that the second will be better than the first. But I am willing to watch anyway. I admire the man, I have to support him. But I am so glad you enjoyed the interview.
You know the FIW book is beginning to be quite a collector's item! on Amazon alot of copies go in an $80 range! I remember when I first got my copy for Christmas several years ago,and back then it only cost about $25!
Really? That's awesome! I've seen After Man go for $120 as well. I guess Dixon is truly a great author! I feel honored that he sees me as a friend.
Dougal Dixon is awesome because his predictions (evolution wise) are so plausible. EXCEPT that is for his terrible book,Man After Man. I didnt like Man After Man just because it honestly seems to much like science fiction then science fact. I doubt our species will even live long enough to evolve into any higher species. infact,the future humens in that book dont even look more evolved,more like less evolved because some of them had fur and tales.
tails,i mean. english grammer can get so complex
I never read Man After Man myself. But that is kinda silly to think we will re-evolve fur and tails.
Timgal, you may do it right now...
Yes, 01_ru also exists: I translated this book into Russian completely. Enjoy, but remember - you may like not all you may see there. Opinions of Russian readers vary, but they usually think his scenario is too fantastic.
Wow that is something. Though I personally could never see humans evolving into those, they do pave the way for some interesting animal ideas.
yay first comment I love this site Timgal it is my favorite after man site. Of course you can see what my favorite animal is from my title. I like when you put Virtual Zoo of the Future but if you put a Deinognathus in a modern day zoo like Sna diego zoo what would happen?
Hey! I am so glad you are such a fan. If you were to put such a large predator like Deinognathus in San Diego, it'd probably eat the zookeepers.
I like ur dee dee's knick knacks shop! I would like to purchase some thing their sometime soon,butfor I do so I just have some questions about it.
1.I know you take good time and care into making those sculpts,and I thank you for doing that,but paying almost $50 for 1 sculpt just seems a little outrageous. so,could you please bring the price down just a little bit?
2.can you make a sculpt of any animal that you have created in metazoica? and even maybe some creatures from TFIW and After Man?
3.do the sculpts you make break easily?
that is all my questions about it now. please reply back and answer them.
Hi there. I'm glad you like the shop. In answers to your questions:
1. I'm sorry, I cannot. I have to pay for studio time, the clay I use, and labor, the glass eyes I use cost a lot too, especially to have them shipped, and for $50, I cut back a LOT on my labor. I can make a mini, less-detailed sculpture for $20.
2. Yes I can.
3. They're guaranteed to arrive safely. I haven't had one break on me yet. But if it does, send it back to me and I will gladly fix it.
Hope this helps answer your questions.
what are the mini's length and width? and by the way Im rly happy ur a good enough sculpter to bring some of my child hood's greatest memories into the palm of my hand! Japan released 7 small Future is Wild figures but for some reason they stopped making them. I always wished I had a toy squibbon,they look so cute,LOL. Plus some of your creatures seem very plausible to exist,so I would love to buy some sculpts of ur creative critters (when I get the money after christmas LOL). thanks for the help! and incase u didnt know about the Future is Wild toys from Japan and want them,you can buy them for DIRT CHEAP on ebay. I got all 7 of them for about $6 each,shipping and all.
The mini's would be no more than about 3 inches high. I cannot promise my recreations I make of TFIW creatures will be as good as you can get on Ebay, but I can surely make a go of it. I'm pretty good at figuring out how to do basically anything I set my mind to. And if you aren't satisfied, you can always return it and I'll give you your money back.
Hmmm I was thinking maybe if anyone could make a Metazoica pack for Zoo Tycoon 2 you could have animals like Anabracchium,Anatomys,Brittonia,Carnodorcas,Deinognathus, and all those awesome critters as well as foliage and scenery.
And a question about Deinognathus, what else does it eat besides those giant antelopes(Megalodorcas.
Honestly, I'm not the greatest when it comes to making foliage. Someone else would have to do that.
About Deinognathus, funny thing, I used to have a pic I made a long time ago of Deinognathus' "menu". But they also eat deer, other antelopes and therapeds, giant rodents like Anatomys. Anything they can overpower. Being the largest carnivorous mammal ever on land, they can pretty much overpower anything. Even other carnivores.
I wonder what would happen if someone went into the Metazoic and brought some Deinognathus on all the other continents like Lemuria, Africa, Europe and all those. What would happen to the other carnivores and what would they eat on other continents like say Lemuria
Well, thankfully humans will be gone by then, and won't be taking animals from their natural homes and introducing them to other places where they would mess up the ecosystem of that country.
But according to Dixon, Lemuria is an island of antelope, so there would be an abundance of food for a large predator. And Lemuria has it's own Deinognathids.
The other Deinognathids and other predators would get ripped to shreads by a large Deinognathus.
Oh a few questions:
1. What happened to any cats did they get outcompeted?
2. Who would win in a death match a Deinognathus or a Spathodon
3. If a Deinognathus was let loose in New York city what would happen?
LOL! You've got it there. In answer to your questions:
1. the cats became the Barofelids 30 MYAM, and then 20 MY later, another family known as the Ailurocyonids.
2. Deinognathus, hands down! D would be bigger and more powerful.
3. Don't ask! LOL! You wouldn't want to know.
What about Deinognathus and Tarboailurus they seem to inhabit the same region and more questions:
1. Would a Deinognathus kill a Tyrannopithecus or would it be the other way around?
2. On the checklist I noticed Cervus for deer, do elk and such survive or do Pudu evovle to something almost exactly like them.
3. do the Gaboon-Antelopes have horns?
4. In the Metazoic what animals would be perfect for a zoo for today?
Tarboailurus is a giant mongoose, and it would behave much like today's tigers. Only bigger. Deinognathus could lick it, but Tarboailurus would be very tough fighters.
1. Deinognathus would kill Tyrannopithecus if they were to meet.
2. It's derived from pudu. Cervus basically means deer, so I just continue using that name.
3. No they don't. Some have tusks though.
4. That would be hard to say. The rodents perhaps, predatory and not, antelope, therapeds, smaller deinognathids, primates (pentadactyls), etc.
Wait so a Deinognathus could kill a Tarboailurus?
and I am full of questions:
1. What does a Tyrannopithecus fear where it lives any Spathodon
2. Who would win 15 lions or a Deinognathus
3. What happens to Maursupials at 60 Myam do they get outcompeted?
4. Who would win a T rex or a Deinognathus?
They could, but a Tarboailurus could give the Deinognathus a Hell of a run for it's money. Think of it as a battle between a polar bear and a siberian tiger. Though a Deinognathus would have the advantage because it is bipedal.
1. Tyrannopithecus would treat any Spathodon with respect.
2. Deinognathus it's self is a predator, so they too are equipped with sharp claws and teeth, and quick reflexes, that plus their size, I'd think they could whip even 15 lions.
3. Marsupials are still plentiful 60 MYAM. Particularly kangaroos. Though when Australia collides with Asia and the pentadactyls move in, things like tree kangaroos disappear.
4. I think it would be an even battle.
Anyway, I am glad you are asking intelligent questions, rather than drawing your own conclusions, which may or may not have been right.
1. Could a Tyrannopithecus really swallow a lion in one bite?
2. Do the coursing rats give birth to well devloped young like antelopes and deer?
3. WHat is a Deinognathus's killing method for large and small prey?
Ohh by the way there are some evil preople on a place called Speculative Evolution Fourms thing and they keep making fun of it. I bet they are jealous because your future world is too awesome for their brains to handle.
1. Tyrannopithecus is large enough. I may have exaggerated a bit in the fact it could swallow a lion in one bite. That was written some years ago.
2. Yes they do.
3. For large prey, Deinognathus kills with a crushing bite to the neck or back. For small prey they just down them in one gulp.
4. The people on the SE forum can make fun all they want to, what they think has no bearing on my life. Though not all of them are bad, in all fairness. But there are a lot of people there who are too short-sighted for my taste.
That's why I like Metalraptor. He doesn't say in a negative way "this will never happen!" He says "How can we make this happen?" I've had a lot of fun working with him this past year. :)
LOL! OK, so maybe I'm wrong. What the people on the SE forum think may have *some* bearing on my life. But not in they way they hope or think. As unbelievable as this may sound, I've found in the past year that every time they make fun of me, something wonderful happens. Maybe it's fate, or karma, call it what you will, but nothing but great things have happened to me since they started bashing my project. hehe! But that's how I am. My supporters give me the encouragement to do what I want, and people like the evil ones on the SE forum, who say I'll never do something, or I'm too delusional, give me the extra drive to go for it! And I do. :) Dougal Dixon and I would never have met if it weren't for that extra drive I got.
How big of an animal could a Deinognathus swallow? What are some animals in its home range that it can swallow whole?
1. How tall is Deinognathus on average like a normal sized male.
2. How tall is Anatomys?
3. Of all the deer like deinognathids what is the most fearsome?
4. What happens to deer at 50 MYAM do antelopes out compete them?
5. What are the Futuristic Hyenas deseceded from?
6. What is the difference between predatory and carnivorus rats
7. What does Spathodon fear were it lives and what does it eat and how tall is it.
8. Does a Deinognathus pretty much behave like a T.rex?
I cant wait for the next update I hope it is either the gebbucks or shrubucks
Wow! You've got a roll there. hehe! Well anyway, I'll try to answer all of them.
1. An animal of comparable size to a german shepherd dog.
2. Have you seen the size-charts? I did the Deinognathids on there. But if you'd like it put into words, about 25-28 feet tall.
3. About 12 feet tall at the shoulders. With the neck and head about 17 feet tall.
4. I'd have to say Ictocamelus.
5. Deer are taken over by antelope.
7. I think "carnivorous" rats are just any rat that eats meat, whether they kill it or not. I think "predatory" refers to a rat that kills it's own food and eats it.
8. In it's range, Spathodon fears nothing, and eats anything that moves, including antelope, smaller deinognathids (like Tamanoa), lemurs and other Pentadactyls, coursing rats, etc. Size can be seen on the size chart on the website. Of course that's the largest species. The smallest is about 7 feet tall.
9. Pretty much, though people believe T. rex is more of a scavenger. It had puny arms, whereas Deinognathus has larger, heftier arms.
10. I'll think about it. I got a previous request to do the abbergants.
Thanks for answering my questions here is some more
1. Does Carnodorcas fear anything where it lives?
2. What happens to the therapads at 60 Myam?
3. Is there any land carnivore that can kill a full grown Deinognathus
No problem. Here's your answers:
1. Carnodorcas would be afraid of Ictocamelus.
2. They reach their peak.
I dont see why just 1 deinognathus is so dangerous according to u guys. if its only the size of a beagle how can it be that bad of threat unless all the other animals are smaller? i would undertand if their were several of them sense they do hunt in packs,but just 1 wouldnt be so bad.
Pardon me, but where does it say Deinognathus is the size of a beagle?
OK, I checked out the site, it says Paricteria, which is a smaller form of Deinognathus, is the size of a beagle. But it's not the same species. Now I can see how you made that mistake :)
oh wait,ya I checked the site and ur rigt! I just got mixed up the paragraphs about the creatures. the paragraph of paricteria was right below Deinognathus,and the paragraphs of the 2 creatures were very close to each other and I accidently read the wrong paragraph.
in my first sentence when i said "rigt" i meant "righ"! darn typos lol
damn it! i made another typo! when i said "righ" in the last comment i meant "right"! I gotta look at my keyboard!
LOL! Don't worry about the typos. No big deal.
About the Barofelids. Just here you said they appeared 30 MYAM and were replace 20 million years later by Ailurocyonids. But that contradicts what it says on your checklist, where it says the ailurocyonids replace them in 15 million years and die out in 35 million years
You're right. It does. Sorry about that. Not much excuse for that except at the time I wrote this I wasn't looking at my checklist.
The whole thing about adding felines confuses me. But I needed large predators of some sort during the early Metazoic.
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